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		<title>Comment on Ellen Wants You to Skip Turkey This Thanksgiving by VeganChristmasBaby</title>
		<link>http://realthanksgiving.com/2010/10/ellen-wants-you-to-skip-turkey-this-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>VeganChristmasBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say - after being around enough turkeys who were abused and traumatized beyond comprehension at the hands of us (and by us, I mean the ones who have the ability to write books and cure cancer), seeing them trust a human to even touch them again can definitely be interpreted as forgiveness. And when a turkey melts into your arms and snuggles down by you, cooing softly to you all the while (the way a dog or cat might), it also can be interpreted that they have character. But what do I know? I&#039;m just a farmed animal sanctuary volunteer.

I guess we shall just have to agree to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say &#8211; after being around enough turkeys who were abused and traumatized beyond comprehension at the hands of us (and by us, I mean the ones who have the ability to write books and cure cancer), seeing them trust a human to even touch them again can definitely be interpreted as forgiveness. And when a turkey melts into your arms and snuggles down by you, cooing softly to you all the while (the way a dog or cat might), it also can be interpreted that they have character. But what do I know? I&#8217;m just a farmed animal sanctuary volunteer.</p>
<p>I guess we shall just have to agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ellen Wants You to Skip Turkey This Thanksgiving by Editor</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Forgiveness&quot; in a turkey? &quot;Character&quot;? 

Please. 

Turkeys are an animal. As a creation of God they deserve humane treatment and living conditions. 

But let&#039;s not go overboard. I&#039;m yet to see one write a book, cure cancer or other contribute to society beyond food or possibly a little scenery. 

Perspective would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Forgiveness&#8221; in a turkey? &#8220;Character&#8221;? </p>
<p>Please. </p>
<p>Turkeys are an animal. As a creation of God they deserve humane treatment and living conditions. </p>
<p>But let&#8217;s not go overboard. I&#8217;m yet to see one write a book, cure cancer or other contribute to society beyond food or possibly a little scenery. </p>
<p>Perspective would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ellen Wants You to Skip Turkey This Thanksgiving by VeganChristmasBaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>VeganChristmasBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for posting about this compassionate program, although I feel compelled to say that turkeys are gentle, smart, and kind animals with very unique personalities if you get to know them in an environment that&#039;s not violent. As a volunteer of Farm Sanctuary, and as someone who has spent plenty of time with rescued turkeys, I can assure you of that. In my years of spending time with turkeys, have never once felt threatened or in danger around a turkey who feels safe in my company.

99% percent of all turkeys are unable to procreate naturally as a result of being bred to be so large that they can barely function normally - and this is something we, as humans, have done to them. This is through no fault of their own. We have clearly created a situation that is abusive to them, and so calling turkeys dangerous in comparison to our actions towards them doesn&#039;t seem fair or right.

The farmed animals rescued at places like Farm Sanctuary have come from unbelievably abusive situations, yet they manage to forgive humans of their trespasses when treated kindly. That kind of character is something to be respected, admired, and cherished. We are fortunate to live among them, and I hope one day, we will give them the freedom, peace, and love they, like all sentient beings, truly deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for posting about this compassionate program, although I feel compelled to say that turkeys are gentle, smart, and kind animals with very unique personalities if you get to know them in an environment that&#8217;s not violent. As a volunteer of Farm Sanctuary, and as someone who has spent plenty of time with rescued turkeys, I can assure you of that. In my years of spending time with turkeys, have never once felt threatened or in danger around a turkey who feels safe in my company.</p>
<p>99% percent of all turkeys are unable to procreate naturally as a result of being bred to be so large that they can barely function normally &#8211; and this is something we, as humans, have done to them. This is through no fault of their own. We have clearly created a situation that is abusive to them, and so calling turkeys dangerous in comparison to our actions towards them doesn&#8217;t seem fair or right.</p>
<p>The farmed animals rescued at places like Farm Sanctuary have come from unbelievably abusive situations, yet they manage to forgive humans of their trespasses when treated kindly. That kind of character is something to be respected, admired, and cherished. We are fortunate to live among them, and I hope one day, we will give them the freedom, peace, and love they, like all sentient beings, truly deserve.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Best Thanksgiving Movies by jmcm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmcm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In our house, we like to watch the Marx Brothers in &quot;Horse Feathers,&quot; which revolves around the Thanksgiving Day football game between two colleges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our house, we like to watch the Marx Brothers in &#8220;Horse Feathers,&#8221; which revolves around the Thanksgiving Day football game between two colleges.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Judge Wipes Out Thanksgiving by Wenceslaus</title>
		<link>http://realthanksgiving.com/2010/05/federal-judge-wipes-out-thanksgiving/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Wenceslaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 04:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Federal Judge Barbara Crabb did not rule that Thanksgiving is unconstitutional. To the contrary, she wrote in her decision in Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc. v. Obama:

Sometimes a statute that may seem at first blush to promote a religious belief may survive scrutiny under the establishment clause if the benefit to religion is incidental and the government has a valid secular purpose for its conduct. Metzl v. Leininger, 57 F.3d 618, 620 (7th Cir.1995) (“[A] law that promotes religion may nevertheless be upheld either because of the secular purposes that the law also serves or because the effect in promoting religion is too attenuated to worry about.”). For example, in McGowan v. Maryland, 366 U.S. 420 (1961), the Court upheld a state&#039;s Sunday closing law because many employees would prefer not to work on Sunday regardless of their religion. Other commonly cited examples are the national observances of Christmas and Thanksgiving. E.g., Lynch, 465 U.S. at 675. Although these holidays have religious origins, their celebration by the government does not connote endorsement in the eyes of the reasonable observer because of the significant secular meaning the holidays now have. Metzl, 57 F.3d at 620.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal Judge Barbara Crabb did not rule that Thanksgiving is unconstitutional. To the contrary, she wrote in her decision in Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc. v. Obama:</p>
<p>Sometimes a statute that may seem at first blush to promote a religious belief may survive scrutiny under the establishment clause if the benefit to religion is incidental and the government has a valid secular purpose for its conduct. Metzl v. Leininger, 57 F.3d 618, 620 (7th Cir.1995) (“[A] law that promotes religion may nevertheless be upheld either because of the secular purposes that the law also serves or because the effect in promoting religion is too attenuated to worry about.”). For example, in McGowan v. Maryland, 366 U.S. 420 (1961), the Court upheld a state&#8217;s Sunday closing law because many employees would prefer not to work on Sunday regardless of their religion. Other commonly cited examples are the national observances of Christmas and Thanksgiving. E.g., Lynch, 465 U.S. at 675. Although these holidays have religious origins, their celebration by the government does not connote endorsement in the eyes of the reasonable observer because of the significant secular meaning the holidays now have. Metzl, 57 F.3d at 620.</p>
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